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 * People who think recitation is “dry religion” forget that the only time Jesus taught his disciples to pray he gave them the exact words. Also, re Nicene Creed:

Jesus taught exactly two things from the Nicean Creed:

1. God is Father 2. Jesus is one with the Father.

Everything else is the teaching of men ABOUT Jesus that has nothing to do with how to please God.

The First Council of Constantinople recognized and amended this in 381.


 * We can't though. That'd be a grave misuse of reason and totally ignore natural theology. We can't know everything about God from nature but there's no basis to deny His reality and the Church is the only logical body on earth.

John Barrett II: "The Church is the only logical body on earth."

St. Jude: "Ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints."

Pope Francis: "Only a partial vision can think of the deposit of faith as something static."


 * A simplified version: if God stops thinking about something, it stops existing. So, he is keeping each thing in existence at every instant. This can be called creation although sustaining in existence or similar could work too.

Implausified thus:

"And they built the high places of Baal...to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin." Jeremiah 32:35


 * I mention 20th-century as this was when the scientific evidence against YEC came to the fore so the question had to be addressed (before then we had no clear evidence the earth was hundreds of millions of years old).

A Belgian priest found a solution to Einstein's field equations that pointed to the universe having a beginning. Einstein amended GR with a fudge factor to get around it. Fred Hoyle called Georges Lemaître "the big bang man" to ridicule him. He was sort of a reverse Galileo.


 * If you could find a fossil not in the correct layer, you would falsify evolution. It has never been found, and that’s incredibly significant.

One fossil wouldn't do it, there might have been a local geological anomaly. But if rabbits are found in a strata below trilobites, globally, then it's back to the drawing board.


 * Energy is equivalent to mass, and mass is a property of matter, and matter is a property of the universe. The universe is contingent, so is energy. It cannot be a first cause.

"First" implies temporal order. Time is part of space-time, and space-time is the gravitational field, which is part of the universe, which you assert is contingent. So a necessary "first cause" is incoherent when asserted in conjunction with contingent time.


 * The Trinity alone allows God to be the only self-moving being. Bc God is the only being unable to be moved by anything outside of Himself, but freely capable of creating and controlling contingent things in motion

On the contrary, it is written (Job 2:3): And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job...one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.


 * Given this, even if it were plausible that the temporal universe could be everlasting and involve an infinite regress of mediate causes, it would nonetheless be true that any and every individual substance or event (not Aquinas's term) would require an immediate first cause.

The words "first" and "last" pertain to temporal order, even as "front" or "back" pertain to spatial order. When you put forth that the necessary being is the first cause, you are simultaneously affirming that time itself is in being coexistent with that cause.


 * The Bible says that sexual deviancy is an abomination.

Meanwhile Cain marries his sister and Abraham marries his half sister...


 * Well Satan knows what the Bible says. So he’s been trying to destroy God’s plan from the beginning. So whoever can be used, will be

God: "I'm going to destroy every person on earth! I'll even wipe out animals, birds, and reptiles. I'm sorry I ever made them."

God: "I regret that I made Saul king, for he has turned back from following me, and has not carried out my commands.”

What a great planner God art.


 * I believe: I am saved, not by works but by the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

St. Paul says women are saved by becoming mothers. That's definitely a work!

1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.


 * The Bible says the Universe came from nothing so your argument is invalid.

The Bible says the universe came from water.

God made the firmament, and divided the waters. And God called the firmament Heaven.

And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear. And God called the dry land Earth.


 * Biden couldn’t pronounce “Psalms” pretty much EVERY politician lies about faith! The Bible says You cannot serve two masters, God and Money (mammon), show me a politician whose not in it for the power & greed. This isn’t about a fast food restaurant 🤫🙄🤦🏻‍♀️ Open your eyes folks!

For God so loved the world that whosoever shall correctly pronounce the word "Psalms" as a test of their faith shall inherit eternal life, but whosoever shall not correctly pronounce this word shall suffer eternal hell fire for their damnable apostasy. (Hezekiah 19:3)


 * This is true. However, one can make reasoned conclusions about the nature of God from the reality he created. Hence, Aquinas claims that Rom. 1:18-21 refers to the via triplex in his Commentary on Romans. Our knowledge is, at best, fallible and our assertions are analogical.

When we look at the power spectrum of the anisotropies in the cosmic microwave radiation we can make reasoned conclusions about the amount of transparent matter that must exist in the universe but this does not lead us to any conclusions about a creator, Romans 1 notwithstanding.


 * God is not indifferent or apart from human suffering. He is a Crucified God. God Himself was violated, tortured, and murdered on a cross. So that evil and suffering would be redeemed and reversed by the power of his resurrection from death.

Sounds great, until Paul condemns the Jews for bringing it about.

1 Thess. 2:15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:


 * This, I was raised Southern Baptist. My dad was a preacher. I know their perspective intimately. I categorically reject it because it's primarily based on the teachings of Paul and not Jesus. Not to mention a variety of other issues like translation errors.

Jesus taught his own religion, which was basically a more strict version of Judaism that said attend to the motives that lead to sin, not merely the actions that are sins.

Paul ignored all that and taught a religion ABOUT the Christ he thought he saw during a sunstroke.


 * When addressing the atheist objection "if everything is created then who created God?", I believe at least three points need to be made clear 1. Many atheist philosophers who are in the field of philosophy of religion are against this objection

If everything that exists is created, and God exists, then God is created. If at least one thing that exists was not created, then either a creator was not created, and/or the universe itself was not created. Of the two, we only have evidence for the existence of the universe.


 * TFW when atheists use the problem of evil as a proof against God, but that was literally the first objection that Aquinas answered in the Summa, Prima Pars, Question Two, Article Three, like, 800+ years ago.

Aquinas: "He would not allow any evil to exist in His works, unless His omnipotence and goodness were such as to bring good even out of evil."

Atheist: "God cannot make a 4-sided triangle."

Apologist: "His omnipotence is such as to bring 4 sides out of a 3 sided figure."

Yay.


 * I’ll go a step further. Shouldn’t no Christian be invoked in either political party. Why do you think the Bible says not to be of the this world.

Luke 19:13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, occupy till I come.

You sound like the servant who did this instead: "Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin."

His master didn't much like THAT.


 * Do you believe anything in scripture is true? Jesus often used simpler illustrations in parables:

Yes, but the point of a parable is to teach a 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑜𝑙𝑜𝑔𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 truth. If Christ was the first man to go to heaven, then a parable about Lazarus and Abraham already being there would undermine that as much as the historical scripture depicting Enoch and Elijah going there.


 * I guarantee you that the Rapture of the Church takes place first. The Bible says so!

Matt. 24:

[29-31] Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days...then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven...and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

D'oh!


 * The bible says, "Do not be unequally yoked". There's a reason for that statement.

ALSO BIBLE:

1 Corinthians 7:

[10] And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let NOT the wife depart from her husband:

[11] But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let NOT the husband put away his wife.


 * Where do you come up with this garbage? God doesn’t ask people what to do. That’s the whole point.

Isaiah 6:8 8 And I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” Then I said, “Here I am! Send me.”


 * You should read the Summa Theologica by Thomas Aquinas, if you can. You will see that faith and reason are two sides of the same coin.

Faith: "It is written in Hebrews 11:1 that faith itself IS the evidence of things not seen."

Reason: "Emotions like faith are not valid epistemological tools."


 * It says he did and hundreds of other people saw it too than just the Apostles. Then Christians were willing to be executed for this miracle and for the Gospel in general

The only two fellas who knew what Jesus looked like and said they saw Jesus after he died (Matthew and John) couldn't even agree on where they first saw him. Matthew said Galilee, and John said the upper room. Get back to me when you figure out which one was telling the truth.

Just say 40 days
 * The bible says that noah spent 40 days and 40 nights in the ark with earth flooding

Also Bible (Genesis 7:24): And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.


 * This generation believes that the first thing you should do is accumulate wealth and money,so that you may earn respect and status, whereas The Bible says, money is the root cause of all evil

Me: "So, Satan, why did you trick Eve into eating that apple?"

Satan: "Money."


 * No one who faces death dies an atheist. The Bible is the highest standard of science and philosophy. To the people who promote feminism, please take note of Genesis 2:18 - “And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.”

Only after trying out all the other species to see if Adam liked 'em.

Genesis 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

Science!


 * Pls don’t swear. The bible says we should not (Matthew 5)

Also Bible (Deuteronomy 6:13): Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.


 * The Bible says few be saved so yeah

Also Bible (Revelation 7:9): After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands


 * The Case for Heaven movie presents the case that we do have a soul, as the Bible says; it does survive our physical death, as the Bible says; and Jesus was resurrected, proving he’s divine and therefore his teachings on heaven are authoritative.

Christ's teachings on heaven:

1. No man has ascended to heaven but the Son of Man (John 3:13).

2. And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom (Luke 16:22).

Case dismissed!


 * How is it that Christians are STILL referencing Pascal’s Wager centuries after it was first debunked as completely flawed bullshit? And countless times since?

God, on Judgment Day: "And you, son, did you come to faith by allowing my Holy Spirit move your soul to belief in the witness of scripture?"

Christian: "Actually, I selected belief as the optimal position because the consequences of non-belief swamped out the decision matrix."


 * God. As powerful as he is, gave us one priceless gift. Free will. He cannot change anyone’s mind or actions.  Otherwise we’d be prisoners.  Evil can creep into the minds of men and if they don’t seek him evil will stay.

Exodus 7:

[13] And the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them

[14] And the LORD said unto Moses, Pharaoh's heart is hardened, he refuseth to let the people go, LOL.


 * The bible says people like you "will say 'peace, peace,' but there will be no peace." You do not "come in peace" because you are not of God. Jesus said, "Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him."

Also Bible: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

So if God loved the world, and the love of the Father is not in those who love the world, then God must hate himself.


 * Only catching the end of the live portion of Ehrman & Licona and I see Licona's closing statement says that atheists have to have faith that the universe came into existence out of nothing and I don't know if my eyes could roll back further into my head.

Energy and time are conjugate variables. If the laws of physics remain invariant over time, then energy also remains invariant. Something from nothing is a gross violation of this relation, which is asserted only by Bible/Quran believers, not atheists.


 * Bible says that Earth is a circle. Sure it could mean a flat circle, but it doesn't disprove it's a ball neither. Isaiah 40: 22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers;

The Bible says the Earth has four corners too. A circle has no corners.

Rev. 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.


 * Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is a sign not for unbelievers but for believers. 1 Corinthians 14:22 English Standard Version (ESV)

1 Corinthians 14:23: "If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?"

Paul sez tongues is a sign for unbelievers that Christians are insane.


 * No, Jesus wasn't crucified on a Friday. That is a pagan Roman Catholic tradition. Jesus said he would be in the heart of the Earth for three days and three nights. Good Friday is not biblical.

Mark 15:42-43 ...because it was the preparation, that is, 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝐛𝐞𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐚𝐛𝐛𝐚𝐭𝐡, Joseph of Arimathaea, and honourable counseller, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.

Friday.