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Matthew 1

Matthew 1:17 asserts: So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

Well, let’s count ’em up.

1. Abraham -> Isaac

2. Isaac -> Jacob

3. Jacob -> Judah

4. Judah -> Perez

5. Perez ->Ezrom

6. Ezrom -> Aram

7. Aram -> Amminadab

8. Amminadab -> Nohshon

9. Nohshon -> Salmon

10. Salmon -> Boaz

11. Boaz -> Obed

12. OBed -> Jesse

13. Jesse -> David

That’s thirteen, but Matthew was counting from Abraham to David, inclusively. Fair enough. We’ll append David to the list:

14. David ->Solomon

Now we have a list of fourteen kings of Judah and/or Israel:

15. Solomon -> Rehoboam

16. Rehoboam -> Abijam

17. Abijam -> Asa

18. Asa ->Jehoshaphat

19. Jehoshaphat -> Jehoram

20. Jehoram ->

Ahaziah (omitted)

Jehoash (omitted)

Amaziah (omitted)

Amaziah -> Uzziah

21. Uzziah -> Jotham

22. Jotham -> Ahaz

23. Ahaz -> Hezekiah

24. Hezekiah -> Manasseh

25. Manasseh -> Amon

26. Amon -> Josiah

27. Josiah ->

Jehoiakim (omitted)

Jehoiakim-> Jeconiah

28. Jeconiah -> Shealtiel

That works out great. We know we’re on the right track with Matthew’s numbering system, because we get fourteen kings. As to why Matthew deleted references to four of these kings, nobody knows. I suppose he wanted to get exactly fourteen generations in each period.

So now we are come to the homestretch:

29. Shealtiel -> Zarubbabel

30. Zarubbabel -> Abiud

31. Abiud -> Eliakim

32. Eliakim -> Azor

33. Azor -> Zadok

34. Zadok -> Achim

35. Achim -> Eliud

36. Eliud -> Eleazar

37. Eleazar -> Matthan

38. Matthan -> Jacob

39. Jacob -> Joseph

40. Joseph -> Jesus

41. Jesus

We only get thirteen generations. But Matthew says it’s three sets of fourteen generations. And he was a tax collector!

Now Matthew said from Abraham to David are fourteen generations, and from David to the captivity are fourteen generations, so when biblical inerrantists assemble this genealogy they list David at the bottom of the first list and again at the top of the second list, but if they do that they only get to Josiah in the second list, and the captivity was not during his reign. And to be consistent, they would need to put Josiah at the top of the third list just like David was at the top of the second list, but then you get fifteen generations in the third list.

And the whole exercise is moot anyway because Jesus isn’t even really the son of Joseph! At least not genetically. He is asserted to be the product of a union between Mary and the Holy Spirit. But Joseph, following instructions in a dream, wed Mary, And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

The Catholic tradition developed the idea that sex was a necessary evil intended only to create more Catholics. They read that back into the text and teach that Mary remained a virgin her entire life. If that was true, then Matthew would have written it thus:

And knew her not, even after she had brought forth her only son…

When you say, “And watched television not till she had completed her homework” that only means your daughter’s TV time was delayed by her homework. When you say a boy is your “firstborn son” that means you have more. In Jesus’ case, he has four little brothers, named James, Joses, Simon, and Judas. “James the Just”, in fact, became the leader of the Christian Church in Jerusalem. He was not one of the twelve Apostles, but in many ways, as bishop of the Mother Church, he was the real first Pope.

Remember… The Holy Spirit is Invisible, but Ever Present!

On the contrary, it is said (Mt. 3:16) that, when our Lord was baptized, the Holy Ghost descended upon Him in the shape of a dove.

Matthew 5:16 KJV “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.”

Also Matthew (6:1): Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

Trinity isn’t polytheism and Christians actually believe it’s the only possible form of monotheism: Read Aquinas’ relevant parts of Summa Theologica

The Father alone knows the Day of the LORD (Mark 13:32). Blaspheming the Father and the Son is forgivable but blaspheming the Holy Ghost is not (Matt 12:31). The Son must honor his human mother to avoid breaking one of the Ten Commandments, but the Father and Holy Ghost do not.

God has bound all in disobedience, that He may show mercy to ALL -Rom 11:32

Just as a result of one trespass was the condemnation of all men so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for ALL MEN- Rom 5:18

Love never fails- 1 Çor 13:8

Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

MATTHEW 21:5

And the disciples went, and did as Jesus commanded them, And brought the ass, and the colt, and put on them their clothes, and they set him thereon. And a very great multitude spread their garments in the way…


 * How can we know that John the Baptist was a prophet? He literally only prophesied of the coming of Jesus, that’s it. And yet, Jesus called him the “greatest” of prophets?

Well, at least John was a better prophet than Jesus:

“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matthew 16:28)

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WindowsGuy: “The abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel in 9:26, that Christ referred to in Matt. 24:15 was the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD by Titus.”

LinuxGal: Daniel 9:26 “…and the end thereof shall be with a flood…” I don’t remember a flood in the Jewish War.

The ones “He gave.” Judas wasn’t one He gave. You will understand this when you see on heavenly things and not one earthly things. His kingdom is not of this world. Judas was “drawn to Him.” Judas was “drawn” by wealth.

Wasn’t “drawn” to Him but drawn to the idea of Israel overthrowing the Roman Empire and becoming a leader.

Jesus to the whole set of twelve disciples:

“That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” (Matthew 19:28)

So your theory doesn’t work.

For those whose spirit has been made alive through Christ, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Body returns to earth, spirit goes to God.

If you have to be absent from the body to be present with the Lord, so much for his claim in Matthew 28:20, “Lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world.”

“Moses, Christ, and the Philosophers teach the same thing, differing only in the way they teach, namely as worthy of belief [Moses], as probable or likely [Aristotle], and as truth [Christ].” – Meister Eckhart, In Ioh. 185

Christ’s “truth”: (Mark 2:26) “How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?”

Ahimelech was high priest at the time (1 Sam 21:1-3)

1 John 1:9 “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”

ME: Bless me, Father, for I have blasphemed the Holy Ghost.

FATHER BRYAN: Sorry, Jesus can’t help you with that one.

Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation

He seemed like he broke a few laws tho? Maybe, i cant remember.

Mark 7:19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)

Christians say he had the authority to set the Code of Moshe aside because he was God. Jews say nope.

Jesus is omniscient. He didn’t ask questions because He was curious about anything.

On the contrary, it is written (MARK 8:5): “And he asked them, How many loaves have ye? And they said, Seven.”

I believe this is also why Jesus curses the fig tree before entering the city of Jerusalem— a clear sign of his overcoming of death

“Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.” — Jesus Christ, Mark 8:12

Mark : 9 : 25 – When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.

Deaf and dumb spirit: “What?”

Everyone else: “What?”

But the bible says no one is perfect including me. Only Jesus Christ is perfect

But to be perfect you have to be good, and Jesus said only God is good.

Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

“Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury. Now in the place where he was crucified there was a garden; and in the garden a new sepulcer, wherein was never man yet laid. There laid they Jesus” – John 19:40

Also Bible (Mark 16:1) And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

Turns out he was already risen.

For every Bible verse there is an equal and opposite Bible verse.

Because each gospel was written for a different audience and emphasized events that were of interest to that audience

Mark 16:7 “But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee…”

(For Team Galilee)

Luke 24:34 (Still in Jerusalem): “The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon…”

(For Team Jerusalem)

Then there’s Team America (the Mormons)…

The 2 disciples on road to Emmaus did not recognize the risen Lord.

No doubt because the young man at the tomb said to Mary and the other women, (Mark 16:7) “But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee.” So nobody was expecting Jesus to be seen within sixty furlongs (7.5 miles, Luke 24:13) of Jerusalem. The translation was “girl.” Changed to virgin to make it more mystical when in reality they’re all worshiping a child rapist. Likely 12-14 years old. Now … don’t for a second believe it happened, but this is who they worship. The kind of people they are.

Angel to Mary: “The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee.”

Angel to Joseph: “Thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.”

Mary and Joe didn’t talk I take it.

And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. Luke 4:5 KJV

The Earth was flat in those days. This was before Eru Iluvatar, the One, bent Arda into a ball and set the Undying Lands at the end of the Straight Road which only elven ships setting out from the Gray Havens could sail.

Boy is that full of hatred toward Trump. How about this 1 John 3:15 “Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.”

On the contrary, it is written (Luke 14:26): If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

The Bible says that the steps of a good man or woman are ordered by the Lord.

Also Bible (Luke 18:19): And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

Jesus objected to being called good because only God is good. Thus he denied being God. I don’t know how it can be more clear than that.

Greg Locke is worldly preacher. The Bible says to distance ourselves from it (2 Corinthians 6:17).

On the contrary, it is written (Luke 19:13) – And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

God told his followers to kill babies. Jesus seemed pretty non violent (minus the business men in the temple). They seem pretty different.

“The personal claims of Jesus and the espoused implications of his life, death, and resurrection stand in distinct contrast to other religions. This is what Christians through the years have called the gospel—which literally means “good news.” ―Joel Lindsey

“But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.” — Jesus, Luke 19:27

Such very, very good news!

WindowsGuy: “Christians can expect persecution. Luke 21:16 – ‘But you will be betrayed even by parents and brothers and relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death.'”

LinuxGal: “Except their hair. Their hair will be just fine. Luke 21:18 – ‘But there shall not an hair of your head perish.'”

There is no forgiveness without repentance.

Jesus asked God to forgive the people who were executing him while he was being executed (Luke 23:34). They didn’t confess or repent. Be like Jesus.

Near the cross were Jesus’ mother & his mother’s sister, Mary & Mary Magdalene. When Jesus saw his mother standing there beside John, he said to her, “Dear woman, here is your son.” And he said to John, “Here is your mother.” And from then on this disciple took her into his home.

Also Bible (Luke 23:49): And all his acquaintance, and the women that followed him from Galilee, stood afar off, beholding these things.

Variations in the gospels are not contradictions. You have failed to make an argument the gospels contradict themselves. When a detective asks questions during an investigation, its only when the stories align too well that they detect lies. Feel free to try again.

How many angels were at the tomb is small potatoes. I zero in on the big stuff:

Mark 16:7 “But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee…”

Luke 24:34 (Still in Jerusalem): “The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon…”

who committed no sin, nor was any deceit found in His mouth; 1 Peter 2:22 –

Meanwhile:

Jesus: “You go to the festival. I am not going up to this festival because my time has not yet fully come.”

After his brothers had left for the festival he went also, not publicly, but in secret. (John 7:8-10 NIV)

Now the health of the body is ordained to the good of the soul. -Aquinas

John 9:

[2] And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?

[3] Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

The Bible and church history record disciples being kept safe in such instances. But it is not a blanket promise that we can never be killed by a snake bite.

I see. So it must be like how in John 14:14 when Jesus said, ” If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it” it was not a blanket promise either. In fact, I don’t think it was ever kept, once, in the whole history of the world since Christ’s execution.

He “needed” them in order to fulfill the scriptures AND because He was truly man. Paul says explicitly that Jesus was equal to God in Phillipians 2.

On the contrary, it is written (John 14:28): “The Father is greater than I am.”

“This happened so that the words he had spoken would be fulfilled: “I have not lost one of those you gave me.” John 18:9 NIV

So in John 17:12 when he said, “none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled” did that fulfillment back out the fulfillment claimed in John 18:9 that was tied to Jesus losing none?

There are some who complain that @Pontifex doesn’t teach with clarity and is confusing. But look at Jesus. People wanted him to teach with clarity, but instead he taught in parables. Whoever has ears ought to hear

On the contrary, it is written (John 18:20): Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing.

It was at the third hour He was crucified; and it was for three hours (from the 6th to the 9th) that darkness shrouded the Divine Sufferer and Redeemer.

On the contrary, it is written (John 19:14-15): And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him…

Konrad we are the Temple and Christ, Yeshua Ben Yoseph, ascended to the Father, carrying His own blood sacrifice, for you & meto God, Why do you think He said to Mary, touch me not, for I haven’t yet ascended My Father ?

Because she’s a girl and therefore had cooties. Jesus let Thomas touch him:

John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

John 21:24 This is the disciple who testifies to these things and who wrote them down. We know that his testimony is true.

Author of John = “We”

Beloved disciple = “his”.

We know they’re not one because Jesus himself says, “If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.”