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 * Multiple eyewitness accounts of something we’ve already been expecting to happen occurring is really good evidence for it.

Prosecution: "Where did you first see the risen Lord?"

Eyewitness #1 (Matthew): "We first saw Him at a mountain in Galilee."

Eyewitness #1 (John): "No, we first saw Him in the upper room in Jerusalem."

Judge (bringing down his gavel sharply): "Case dismissed.  Next!"


 * You haven’g provided any reason to believe that someone made up the account of Paul seeing Jesus found in Luke. We’re pretty confident that this account was written by the doctor who was a companion to Paul. We have every reason to believe he is a reliable source.

"Luke" contradicts Paul himself.

Acts 9:28 And [Paul] was with them coming in and going out at Jerusalem.

Galatians 1:22 And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ

And that pretty much wraps it up for "Luke".


 * “Why isn't the resurrection of Lazarus anywhere but in the Gospel of John” Argument from silence

Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning,  𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑠𝑡𝑏𝑜𝑟𝑛 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑒𝑎𝑑; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

St. John call your office!


 * Apostle just means one who was sent. It doesn’t necessarily have the same status as the 12.

Rev. 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

Revelation teaches that in the age to come there will only be "twelve apostles of the Lamb".

If Paul is one of these twelve, what of the ministry of Matthias?


 * Paul believes Jesus really appeared to him. It wasn’t his imagination in his opinion because otherwise he wouldn’t have converted. And if Jesus had never died, there would be no reason to not believe him. It’s only because there is a bias against miracles here.

Christ's soteriology:

Repentance, water baptism, keeping the commandments, forgiving others, and faith in who he was

Paul's soteriology:

Faith in the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. Adding the law nullifies the grace of the first.

Looks like Paul met an imposter.


 * What’s the Church position on veganism?

That eating meat cannot be a sin because Christ did not sin (Hebrews 4:15), yet he ate of the Passover lamb (Luke 22:15) and also barbecued fish (Luke 24:42).


 * Consensus denies traditional authorship for, Pentateuch, Joshua, Judges, Psalms, Song of Songs, Job, Isaiah, Daniel, Chronicles. I actually don’t know if consensus would say they know with probable reasoning any of the authors of the OT. As per NT we have Fake Pauline.

True Paul (1 Thes 5:2) : "The day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night."

Fake Paul (2 Thes.2:3):"That day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition."

Bonus Fake Paul (2 Thes.2:2): "True Paul is fake!"


 * Why Do Atheists Reject God’s Moral Law?

Num 15:32-35 And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day...And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.


 * He's not quite right on that though. Historically speaking, the bible is true (to be trusted as the word of God) because the Church says so.

And when the Bible says some of Christ's disciples would live to see the Day of the Lord the Church simply redefines the Day of the Lord to mean the Pentecost event, which means Christ said "Some of you standing here will still be breathing in forty days." Oh boy!


 * Christians believe they exist. We just think they are demons.

Jude 1:6 "And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day."


 * He does go in depth on the word, showing that it allows a Trinity, yet one could still reconcile that doctrine with a divine simplicity.  Norman Geisler goes over many such objections to divine simplicity in his book "Systematic Theology Volume 2" (chapter 2).

Taken as a trinity God's divine simplicity fails from a quick examination of scripture. The Father has knowledge that the Son does not. The Holy Spirit has a dignity protected by unforgivability that the Father and Son do not. The Son must honor a human being (Mary) to avoid sin.


 * The god of the Bible stands up to all skepticism.

God (Psalm 147:5): "Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite."

Also God (Exodus 4:2): "And the LORD said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he said, A rod."


 * Which one isn’t important. We all know God exists. But when one critically understands the evidence the conclusion is Christianity

Bible evidence rules out the Christian claim the Son of Man is divine:

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?


 * Well god is not a person. But I wouldn’t care what color God was. Jesus probably resembled a modern middle eastern person. So what?

If God is not a person, then Jesus is not God.

2 Corinthians 2:10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ


 * I believe in the God that comports to reality and is confirmed by the evidence.

That's not the God of the Bible, of course.

Psalm 147:5 Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite.

Genesis 3:9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?


 * The "context" of the poem shows Israel speaking and the Servant as an individual. The "context" does not help you at all.

Isaiah 53:3 He was despised, and forsaken of men, a man of pains, and acquainted with disease...

Deuteronomy 15:21 And if there be any blemish therein, as if it be lame, or blind, or have any ill blemish, thou shalt not sacrifice it unto the LORD thy God.

Case closed.


 * “In fact, according to the law of Moses, nearly everything was purified with blood. For without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness.” - Hebrews 9:22 NLT

Luke 5:24 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power upon earth to forgive sins, (he said unto the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy couch, and go into thine house.

Forgiveness without animal sacrifice and before the cross. Imagine that!


 * How is saying Mary wasn't sinless limiting the power of God? Mary's sin or lack thereof has nothing to do with God's power. I don't have a problem with Mary at all. I'm just pointing out that literally the only person in the history of the world who was sinless was Jesus.

How is saying Mary wasn't sinless limiting the power of God? Mary's sin or lack thereof has nothing to do with God's power. I don't have a problem with Mary at all. I'm just pointing out that literally the only person in the history of the world who was sinless was Jesus.


 * Aquinas argues that the only "perfection" that is good enough to attract God's will necessarily is the divine perfection; and that anything God creates will be less than this, and hence cannot determine God's will. I think this seems right or at least plausible

On the contrary, it is written (Hebrews 5:9): "And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him."


 * Ten Commandments - eight ...Exodus 20:15 Thou shalt not steal

Also Exodus (3:22):

But every woman shall borrow of her neighbour, and of her that sojourneth in her house, jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment: and ye shall put them upon your sons, and upon your daughters; and ye shall spoil the Egyptians.


 * It does but also goes to show how needed it is for God to be in the marriage from the start. If one person converts and the other refuses, what is there to do about it? It is not right for a Christian to be in such a relationship with a secular person

1 Cor. 7:13-14 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband...


 * John tells us why he wrote his gospel. It was to bring his readers to faith in Jesus. Let's look beyond John's gospel. Let's look at "all Scripture" (2 Timothy 3:16). "The Holy Scriptures are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus" (2 Timothy 3:15).

The holy scriptures also say that wisdom is not good:

Ecclesiastes 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.


 * How dare you say you love God and hate your brother!! You are a liar! 1 John 4:20-21

Scripture:

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.


 * Bible prophecy is being set up for future fulfillment read Daniel 9:27 Ezekiel 38 and 39 and Isaiah 17 for some insight

Ezekiel 12:27-28 Son of man, behold, they of the house of Israel say, The vision that he seeth is for many days to come, and he prophesieth of the times that are far off. Therefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; There shall none of my words be prolonged any more...


 * The foods that are offered to idols are an abomination to God.

1 Cor. 8:8 But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.


 * Satan is the god of this world. (2 Corinthians 4:4) His purpose is to steal, kill & destroy. (John 10:10) That explains most of what you’d ask about our world on earth.

I thought God gave the Earth to mankind, not Satan.

Psalm 115:16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.


 * He will not destroy this world when he comes. Read the word of God.

Word of God:

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.


 * God gave Adam dominion over the earth until he sinned. Once sin entered, Adam (and mankind) lost that position. Sin separates us from God and changes everything. Jesus is the only bridge back to God & restoration of our relationship with Him.

On the contrary, even after the flood God said (Genesis 9:2): The fear of you and the terror of you will be on every beast of the earth and on every bird of the sky; with everything that creeps on the ground, and all the fish of the sea, into your hand they are given.


 * Good Lord, you're embarrassing yourself right now and proving that Paul was right to tell Timothy this. 1 Timothy 2:14 NKJV — And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. There's a reason women are forbidden from teaching, you're proving it.

If Eve was deceived and ate the apple that was not willful sin.

If Adam was not deceived, yet still ate the apple, that was willful sin.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins


 * 2 Peter 2: 4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment

Also Peter (1 Peter 5:8): Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour


 * that the Christ must suffer, and that, by being the first to rise from the dead, he would proclaim light both to the people and to the Gentiles." -Acts 26 : 22-23

First to rise?

2 Kings 13:21 And it came to pass, as they were burying a man, that, behold, they spied a band of men; and they cast the man into the sepulchre of Elisha: and when the man was let down, and touched the bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood up on his feet.


 * WITHOUT LAW. LAWLESS.

God (Genesis 1:29): "Every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."

God, later: (Genesis 2:17): "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it."

Eve: "You change your mind like a girl changes clothes."


 * God has turned to wage war against my enemies. Rejoice

"Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:" ~Proverbs 24:17


 * Why did Jesus send the Apostles out and tell them to baptize people “In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” and tell them to go to the ends of the earth? Why did missionaries go to great lengths to spread the Gospel if it didn’t matter?

I guess Paul thought baptism wasn't as important as preaching and it started there.

1 Corinthians 1:17 "For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect."


 * Do you know that the Bible says if a person has been born again and saved from their sin, they won’t become not Christian later on? It’s a promise.

On the contrary, it is written (2 Peter 2:20): For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.


 * The only thing I say to obtuse atheist is that their Big Bang theory ≈ Let their be light. There’s so many other examples too

Except that in the Bible theory God moved over the face of the waters before he created light, but in the Big Bang theory water came millions of years after light because oxygen was built up from lighter elements in the belly of stars.


 * This is not “the Ten.” It does not purport to be “the Ten.” This is a recapitulation that occurs between Ex 20 and Deut 5 (both the Ten).

On the contrary, it's the only one that explicitly purports that it's the Ten:

Exodus 34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.


 * All who trust in Him for their salvation, and not anything/anyone else, are saved. There is only one gospel, whether you were born in America or India, Catholic or Hindu. Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father.

The Bible says there are two gospels:

Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;


 * Okay, it was a trick question. The correct answer is...both! The gospel of the circumcision is the same as the gospel of the uncircumcision.  Same gospel, same message, presented differently to different audiences

If that is true, then Paul would not of said he was to preach the gospel OF the uncircumcision, but the gospel TO the uncircumcized. And Jewish Christians would have also been released from observing the law, rather than only gentile ones, per the council of Jerusalem in Acts 15.


 * Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, ‘Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree…’ – Galatians 3:13

Also Bible (Deuteronomy 11:26-28): Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse; A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day: And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God @Elishabenabuya


 * Those who teach that you still need to keep the Law, as opposed to trusting in Jesus Christ alone, for salvation are teaching a false gospel, which is Paul's point in the other verse you quoted.

I know that was what Paul taught, but it wasn't what Jesus taught in Matthew 19:17: "... if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."


 * Have you read the book of Hebrews? It explains a lot about this.  Much of the Law was fulfilled by Jesus Christ (eg. there is no more need for animal sacrifices, they were only a temporary picture to help us understand the need and significance of a substitutionary sacrifice)

What was the need and significance of a substitutionary sacrifice? An all-powerful God could simply have mercy and forgive sins out of the goodness of his heart without blood. Jesus in Matthew 9:13 said, "Go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice."


 * As Aquinas states in the Summa, the apostles we're sent to baptize in a particular manner by Christ. And so we are faithful to that, not because we are slavishly literal, but because we do what He asked of us in the manner He asked, because we love Him.

2 Cor. 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.


 * God cannot lie. That is not because of a lack of power, but because it goes against His character.  He is true and has no desire to lie.

On the contrary, it is written (2 Thessalonians 2:11): For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.


 * The previous verse says that "they did not receive the love of the truth". God is simply affirming their choice.  "You don't want to believe in a God who does not lie?  Okay, here you go!"

Why would God need to actively keep them from receiving the truth if they did not love the truth, unless there was a risk they would embrace the truth despite their lack of love for it? And wouldn't that be a good thing? As is typical, the scriptures do not make logical sense.


 * Chinese Government Is Rewriting the Bible with Communist Principles, Watchdog Group Warns.

Chinese communist revision of Acts 2:44-45 -

[44] And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

[45] And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Oh, wait...


 * This is an issue never addressed by theists. They don't simply claim a designer, they claim a *perfect* designer. One imperfection should be enough to reject that claim. They also claim one designer for all life, so the fact that it is found better elsewhere is another major flaw

On the contrary, one imperfection is sufficient to reject the creator's identity as the god of the Bible:

Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.


 * Obviously, I’m not trying to win the approval of people, but of God. If pleasing people were my goal, I would not be Christ’s servant. Galatians 1:10 NLT

Also Paul (1 Corinthians 10:33):  "Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved."


 * "You cannot ask the probability of having the laws of physics and the constants of nature"


 * This objection seems to fail the fine-tuned meteor shower test (it seems crazy to say we can't ask about the probability of the constants there).

The speed of light is constant for all observers and is about 300,000 km/sec. How big is the possible hit-space for that constant? Does it range from 1 to 1,000,000 km/sec, or only from 290,000 to 310,000 km/sec? You can't calculate a distribution from one piece of data.