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For David had done what was right in the eyes of the LORD and had not failed to keep any of the LORD’S commands all the days of his life—except in the case of Uriah the Hittite.

Also in the matter of numbering Israel:

''2 Sam. 24:10 And David's heart smote him after that he had numbered the people. And David said unto the LORD, I have sinned greatly in that I have done...''

'''Jesus’ opposers accused him of making himself equal to God. (John 5:18; 10:30-33) However, Jesus never claimed to be on the same level as Almighty God. He said: “The Father is greater than I am.”—John 14:28.'''

''That's okay, Jesus had Paul make the claim for him later. ''

''Philippians 2:6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage... ''

'''Of the NT writers, only Paul never met him. I'm assuming that the Apostle John wrote Revelation. Paul claims to have met Jesus by vision in Damascus, and says that he wrote what he learned there from the Lord.'''

Whoever wrote Revelation didn't know Jesus by sight. In Revelation 1:13 he says, "...and among the lampstands was someone like a son of man..."

John the Apostle would have said, "Among the lampstands was the Lord Jesus, who instructed me with the gospel of eternal life."

'''Jesus made it very clear: Matthew 24:36 - But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. And in chapter 25:13 Jesus goes on to say: Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.'''

Sure. And he also says, " Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." (Matthew 16:28)

'''The Bible says, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. I'm going with that as my final answer. Everything else is just a distraction'''

If you have to be absent from the body to be present with the Lord, so much for his claim in Matthew 28:20, "Lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world."

Comfort – “For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile:” - 1 Thessalonians 2:3

2 Corinthians 12:16 But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile.

'''Galatians 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.'''

1 Corinthians 10:33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

'''For God shows no partiality [undue favor or unfairness; with Him one man is no different from another]. - Romans 2:11 AMPC'''

On the contrary, it is written (Romans 9:13): "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."

The books of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy (the first five books of the Bible and the entirety of the Torah) were all written by Moses.

"And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated." -- Moses (Deuteronomy 34:7)

21 For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in His steps, 22 who committed no sin, nor was any deceit found in His mouth; 

1 Peter 2

Meanwhile:

Jesus: "You go to the festival. I am not going up to this festival because my time has not yet fully come."

After his brothers had left for the festival he went also, not publicly, but in secret. (John 7:8-10 NIV)

Isaiah 53:4 - Surely our diseases he did bear, and our pains he carried; whereas we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

The disease all by itself disqualified Jesus to be a sacrifice.

Deuteronomy 15:21 And if there be any blemish therein, as if it be lame, or blind, or have any ill blemish, thou shalt not sacrifice it unto the LORD thy God.

“For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.” 1 Thessalonians 5:2

Also Paul (2 Thessalonians 2:3): "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition"

Raymond Robinson’s newly released “The Only Way to Get Saved is By the Tongues” is a step-by-step review of the author’s guide to salvation

1 Corinthians 14:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

'''Justice comes first. Then when there is repentence, you can choose to forgive. No forgiveness without repentence.'''

Jesus forgave the people who were executing him while he was being executed (Luke 23:34). They didn't confess or repent.

Be like Jesus.

'''God does not sleep, the sleeping man. Omniscient God, who know the man.'''

Numbers 22:9 God came to Balaam and asked, “Who are these men with you?”

No one has ever seen God, but if we love one another, God lives in us, and his love is made complete in us.

Genesis 18:1 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day.

'''REPENTANCE IS THE MAINSTAY OF THE BIBLE. WE ALL NEED IT.'''

Luke 15:7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

'''Grace means God doing and supplying all that the sinner requires for salvation.. Law means the sinner working and trying to merit salvation... Problem is, Law requires perfection, which is too late for a sinner to do... Do the Maths.. Grace alone works..'''

The Council of Jerusalem ruling on what Gentiles must do:


 * 1) Abstain from pollutions of idols.
 * 2) Abstain from fornication.
 * 3) Abstain from things strangled.
 * 4) Abstain from blood.

'''I have chatted with a Catholic acquaintance who was positive the Bible said Mary was lifted to heaven (Assumption) and that she was born without sin. When I explained it didn't she said it must have been because I only read a Protestant one.'''

Even if it was in the Bible that's no real help. Paul said Eve sinned because she was tricked into eating that fruit, while Adam did not sin because he was not tricked. Seriously?

1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

There's no such thing as rebaptism in the Bible!

Acts 19:

[3] And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

[5] When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

'''There is nothing in the Bible that suggests believers in Jesus should surrender their bodies to a world system. Rather, we are to be separate from the world.'''

1 Peter

[13] Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;

[14] Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.

'''Protestants claim you cannot lose your salvation but that's untrue. The original Catholic Bible makes it clear, you must repent. Jesus was clear: Repent and DO NOT sin again.'''

John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

Abraham believed God, and God accounted it as righteousness

Why was it necessary for Christ to come into the world if all you needed to do was believe God? Even Muslims and Jews believe God.

Do not be yoked together with unbelievers applies to marriage, business partnership, friendship, travel location, etc

On the contrary, it is written (1 Corinthians 7:14): For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

You currently worship a creature, one of many, whereas you must worship one true immutable God, an uncreated God, uncaused First Cause, Supreme Being, one and only, who created everything out of nothing, without whom nothing came to be.

Scripture teaches us that Jesus increased in favor with God. So God can increase, which means he is not immutable.

Luke 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

"Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.” - Matthew 15:11

Also Bible:

"Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake..."

'''By the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified. But now: the righteous of God w/out the law is manifest being witnessed by the law of the prophets.'''

Also Paul to the Romans:

2:13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

'''This is truly love. God has to punish sin. His Son took that punishment so we could attain eternal life. Jesus took what we deserved. Debt = paid in full.'''

Colossians 1:24 (NIV) - Now I rejoice in what I am suffering for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church.

'''And you don't need to question. The assurance of salvation is one of the greatest gifts given to believers'''

1 Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

'''I believe his objections were against the people not the religion. The Last Supper was a Passover meal.'''

If it was, he celebrated it a little early.

John 19:14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

The Mass is a "Re-Creation or Enactment" of Jesus last Last Passover Event, Which preceeded his Passion and Crucifixion.

Exodus 12:

[22] ...and none of you shall go out at the door of his house until the morning.

[24] And ye shall observe this thing for an ordinance to thee and to thy sons for ever.

Jesus went for a night stroll after the "Passover" meal. Not a very good Jew, was he?

'''There is NO SUCH THING as an Immortal Soul, This is a Catholic Church created Lie. The Scriptures are very clear: "The Soul that Sinneth shall Surely DIE." & "Even King David, a man after God's own Heart is still in his Tomb unto this day."(for several thousand years now). '''

1 Peter 4:6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

'''Ez 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him'''

"I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me." -- God, Exodus 20:5

1 John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Also 1 John:

(3:9) - Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

'''Born again does not take place until the return of Jesus Christ when the resurrected dead & we who are yet living join him in the clouds & in the Twinkling of an eye (blink) that which is Flesh is made Spirit (Born Again) & all receive eternal life (Salvation). '''

On the contrary, it is written (1 Peter 1:22-23) born again is in the past tense, not a future event:

"...see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible..."

'''Did not God tell Adam & Eve that if they ate of the tree of knowledge of Good & Evil they would become as God's knowing Good & Evil & having the power over Life & Death & Eve said to the Serpent if they ate the fruit or touched the tree in the Midst of the garden they would DIE. '''

No, God told Adam, before Eve was made (Genesis 2:17) that he would die on the day that he ate the fruit.

Satan told Eve (Genesis 3:5) that she would gain knowledge of Good and Evil.

They ate the fruit, Adam did not die that day, and they gained knowledge of good and evil.

'''Jesus was perfect and undefiled. That means He was never "with" a woman.'''

The Bible says Jesus was made perfect, which means he wasn't perfect until then.

Hebrews 2:10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Mark 9:25 When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.

Deaf Spirit: "What?"

'''Revelation 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. '''

But the Ten Horns are the good guys, right? Because they hate the Whore of Babylon. Right?

Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

'''It was credited to Abraham as righteousness, it wasn't earned. There is no one righteous, no not one. Romans 3:10 - 12 Psalm 14: 1-3  Psalm 53: 1-3'''

Luke 1:5-6 There was... a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” 

John 3:16 KJV - “world” is kos'-mos means “in a wide or narrow sense” is God’s elect here, same Greek word in John 17:9 of non-elect.

Also John (12:32): "And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”

Psalm 18: a psalm of King David, from the lineage of Christ Yeshua

Sure, David wrote Psalm 18, even though the temple was constructed after David died.

Psalm 18:6 In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried unto my God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him, even into his ears.

'''He missed this memo: “Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” John 14:5-6 KJV'''

John 16:5 But now I am going to him who sent me. None of you asks me, ‘Where are you going?’

James 1:13 God never tests anyone at any time he knows very well.

Judges 2:21-22 I will no longer drive out before them any of the nations Joshua left when he died. I will use them to test Israel and see whether they will keep the way of the Lord and walk in it as their ancestors did.

'''KNOW YOUR COMMANDMENTS The King That TheMostHigh Chooses Must Be Appointed. DEUTERONOMY 17:15'''

1 Samuel 8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

That escalated quickly.

'''For it is impossible for blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Iḇ`rim (Hebrews) 10:4 TS2009'''

Numbers 15:27-28 And if any soul sin through ignorance, then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a sin offering. And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly...to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him.

'''God alone possesses immortality and lives in unapproachable light, whom no human has ever seen or is able to see. To him be honor and eternal power! Amen. 1 Tim 6:16'''

1 Kings 8:12 Then spake Solomon, The LORD said that he would dwell in thick darkness.

...that the Christ must suffer and that, by being the first to rise from the dead, he would proclaim light both to our people and to the Gentiles.

2 Kings 4

[32] And when Elisha was come into the house, behold, the child was dead, and laid upon his bed...

[35] Then he returned, and walked in the house to and fro; and went up, and stretched himself upon him: and the child sneezed seven times, and the child opened his eyes.

'''Want to piss people off? God states in the Old Testament, Deuteronomy 1:7-8 that Israel’s land is from the Euphrates to the Nile. In all their history, they only conquered about 10%. Just a timing issue... God never breaks promises'''

Numbers 14:30 Doubtless ye shall not come into the land, concerning which I sware to make you dwell therein, save Caleb the son of Jephunneh, and Joshua the son of Nun.

'''You're wrong, keep studying. John 1:18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known. '''

Genesis 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

Yes, Word (Jesus) was with the Father, THE TRINITY Read 1 John 5:7 KJV “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

1 John 5:7-8 (NIV) For there are three that testify: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.

Matthew : 27 : 14 - And he answered him to never a word; insomuch that the governor marvelled greatly.

Meanwhile, in the gospel of John, Jesus answers every question Pilate puts to him except "What is truth?"

'''The resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ from the dead, the literal physical bodily resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ is so critical to the Christian gospel that all four gospel writers (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) tell an account of it. '''

Q. Who first saw Jesus after the resurrection?

A1: "Mary Magdelene." (Mark 16:9 & John 20:16)

A2: "The Eleven." (Matthew 28:17)

A3: "Cleopas and some other guy." (Luke 24:18)

A4: Paul: "Peter." (1 Corinthians 15:5)

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

'''That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly. Matthew 6:4'''

Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

'''2 Peter 3:10 But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. On that Day the heavens will disappear with a shrill noise, the heavenly bodies will burn up and be destroyed, and the earth with everything in it will vanish.'''

Ecclesiastes 1:4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.

John 3:35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand

Matthew 20:23 ... but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.

Matthew 28:8 And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word.

Peter: "Whassup? Why do you have such great joy?"

Mary: "They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him." (John 20:2)

'''No man has gone or will go to heaven, Jesus said it plainly " no man has ascended to heaven..."John 3:13. David is "dead and buried" Acts 2:29. Not in heaven(Acts 2:34).'''

2 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

1 Timothy 6:16 "God is the only One who never dies."

Hebrews 7:3 on Melchizedek:

"Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually."

'''At this Peter began to speak, and he said: Now truly I understand that God is not partial but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him. - Acts 10:34-35. If God does not discriminate why should we.'''

Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

1 Peter 2:-3-14 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.

Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

'''There is also no Archeological evidence of Israelites having been slaves in Egypt. God asked for a census of the number. Didn’t he know? In Bbl up to over 2 million former slaves left. Impossible as that would have made Israelites a superpower and emptied Egypt.'''

The whole Exodus thing didn't really pan out, if you ask me:

1 Kings 20:15 Then he numbered the young men of the princes of the provinces, and they were two hundred and thirty two: and after them he numbered all the people, even all the children of Israel, being seven thousand.

'''The Romans weren’t into sacrificing to Yahweh (certainly not Pilate). It was an execution. Nothing more.'''

Matthew: "I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples."

John: "Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas...and went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover."

The gospels can't even get that simple detail straight.

'''The similarity of language and style between the Revelation and John suggest a common authorship. Combined with the unanimous testimony of the early church I dont see any reason to doubt it.'''

John 21:24 This is the disciple who testifies to these things and who wrote them down. We know that his testimony is true.

Author of John = "We"

Beloved disciple = "his".

We know they're not one because Jesus himself says, "If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true."

Obadiah Chapter: 1 In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that strangers carried away his substance, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them.

No love lost there. God hated the father of the Edomites from the gitgo.

"And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness." -- God, Malachi 1:3

'''Jonah is then swallowed by a great fish. Spending three days inside its belly, the prophet prays to God and vows to deliver his prophecy, at which point the fish spits him out'''

"For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." ''' Fish or whale? We report, you decide.

'''He was oppressed and He was afflicted, yet He opened not His mouth; He was led as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,so He opened not His mouth. --Isaiah 53:7 NKJV'''

Pilate asked, "Art thou the King of the Jews?"

Jesus opened his mouth and said, "Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did others tell it thee of me?"

Pilate answered, "Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done?"

Jesus opened his mouth and answered, "My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that  I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."

Pilate therefore said unto him, "Art thou a king then?"

Jesus opened his mouth and answered, "Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world,  that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the  truth heareth my voice."

'''You say that men made up God. Then why would they "describe God as a bumbling idiot that can't get anything right?"'''

"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."

"And the LORD God said unto the serpent, 'Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life.'"

Bumbling idiot.

'''God is good. You can often tell whether or not a thing is of God. If it is of God, it must be good. Honesty, purity, unselfishness, and love are all good, unselfish helpfulness is good, and these things all lead to the abundant life. '''

Judges 9:23 Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech

'''"Love is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs." -- St. Paul  "God is love." -- St. John. ''' "And another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to  their works." -- Also St. John

'''This is reminiscent of the ontological argument, first put forth by st anselm of canterbury in 1283. It goes something like: god is perfect. For something to be perfect, it must have the quality of existence. Therefore god exists'''

Believer: "Here's a bag of apples."

Atheist: "It's empty."

Believer: "Nevertheless, it is a bag of apples, only with zero apples."

Atheist: "It's just an empty bag."

Believer: "No, it is a bag of apples that lacks perfection because the quantity of apples happens to be zero."

'''He was oppressed and He was afflicted yet He opened not His mouth He was led as a lamb to the slaughter and as a sheep before its shearers is silent so He opened not His mouth. (Isaiah 53:7)'''

''Also Bible (Mark 14:61-62) - Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.''

'''Atheism is an unhinged delusion about an impossible confluence of states and circumstances just happening to exist for no other reason than “it just does”. It’s normalised insanity masquerading as mature intellectualism.'''

But telepathically telling an invisible man that you accept him as your Lord and Savior because if you don't he will torture you for all eternity for being the descendant of a rib-woman who ate a magic fruit at the behest of a talking snake, why, that's the epitome of sanity.

'''The Bible itself can prove its authenticity. While the atheists, up to this date, cannot prove their theories on how things came to exist.'''

''"If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true." -- The Word Made Flesh''

Fascinating: whenever we Catholics argue for the existence of God, atheists are now repeating the mantra “Which god?” as if this is somehow compelling. Not only is this post modernist gibberish, God is not a thing, but the necessary and metaphysically ground of all being.

And for some reason the ground of all being being punishes souls for all eternity for eating a hot dog on a Friday of Lent.

"And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen." -- The God Who Is Not A Thing, speaking to Moses

Reminder that atheists are oblivious of the various genres found in the Bible.

Law genre: "Kill witches and gay guys."

Science genre: "God sent a wind and the 1.1 billion cubic miles of water that covered even Mt. Everest went away."

History genre: "Two million desert migrants stopped at Elim where there was one well for every 167,000 people."

"Top US Catholic bishop calls social justice movements ‘pseudo-religion’" It's cute when atheists get mad over a Catholic Bishop actually saying something Catholic

''St. James said pure religion before God is to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction. The only reason atheists are mad at the bishop is that he added the prefix "pseudo" to our SJW religion. Then again, deviating from the Bible certainly is a Catholic thing to do.''

'''Aquinas isn't making a temporal argument though. Aquinas is happy to grant there could be an actual infinity of temporal moments. Aquinas is asking about sustaining causes, namely what is responsible for motion and sustained existence.'''

"Sustained" motion presupposes that, left alone, things naturally come to a stop. This is a vestige of Aristotle that was superseded by Newton's conservation of momentum. "Sustained" existence has the same issue, but the energy (mass) conserved is intrinsic to the object itself.

'''St Thomas Aquinas proved the existence of God inthe 13th century. Climate change is altogether more difficult'''

Aquinas: "I don't have a pile of observations, but here's some clever word salad proving God exists"

Christian: "Okay, I'll buy that."

NOAA: "We don't have a clever word salad but here's a hundred years of ocean temperature data proving change."

Christian: "I don't buy that."

'''The existence of a prime mover- nothing can move itself; there must be a first mover. The first mover is called God. - Thomas Aquinas '''

If nothing can move itself, then God cannot move himself. If God cannot move, then he cannot perform the act of setting something in motion because that act consists of transferring motion from one thing to another.

'''God is not a thing. It is implicit that God is uncreated, that's the whole question we are begging. Stating that God must have a cause is just a rephrasing of the question whether God exist. You are simply not talking about the same god.'''

''If God is not a thing, then you make the atheists' case and his existence is not demonstrated. If the claim is that God has a privileged status outside of the rule that something must have a cause, then by reflection God cannot also be a cause. The privilege becomes a hindrance. ''

'''Aquinas's Third Way. Put simply, for contingent beings, that do not exist in their nature, to have continued existence, necessary existence, whose nature (essence) is to exist, must exist.'''

''In physics we observe that certain types of matter may be created or destroyed. Still, the mass and energy associated with such matter remain unchanged in quantity after the transformation. Put simply, while matter or energy is contingent, the composite mass-energy is necessary.''

I dared to question the brilliance of Augustine (from whom we received the doctrine of ‘original sin’) and Aquinas (who gave us such humdingers as the ‘argument from degree’).

The Argument from Degree:

A bachelor is summoned to a job interview on short notice. He wanders around his studio sniffing shirts in a desperate search for his least-smelly shirt, which by definition must exist. That shirt, when he finds it, is acceptable for the interview.

'''Aquinas's fifth way, is the principle example I'm thinking of. It argues from the fact that natural things like a heart is directed toward pumping blood, and an acorn is directed toward becoming an oak tree. It argues from final causality to a Supreme Intelligence.'''

''This is why most Christians can't stand the theory of descent with variation and natural selection. Given time, organisms, without planning or forethought, adapt to become optimized for their environment. This presents a simulacrum of design. ''

'''Anselm defines God as that which nothing greater can be conceived. If you can conceive this being in your mind, it exists in your mind, if this being only exists in your mind then a greater being can be conceived, i.e. one that exists in reality, thus God must exist in reality.'''

''What exists in the mind is only thoughts and memories. You can have thoughts of a being in your mind, but that does not imply the being exists in your mind. ''

'''Not sure I get your point. God is uncaused since he is an infinite being. Saying God needs a cause for him to exist is begging the question. If God would have a cause he would not be God.'''

''I see. So you are arguing that God is a special case and the rules of cause and effect don't pertain to him. But the road to Tel Aviv is also the road to Damascus. Which is to say: If God cannot be the effect of a cause, then he also cannot be the cause of an effect.''

'''C'mon, man. Matthew was written by Matthew. Luke was written by, well, Luke. Whoever wrote the gospel of John was an actual eyewitness. John the apostle wrote the book of Revelations. They were all personally recruited by Jesus.'''

Believers: "Apostle John wrote the book of Revelations"

Apostle John (Rev. 1:13): "And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man..."

Atheist: "What do you mean 'like unto the Son of man'? Was he the Son of man or not?"

Apostle John: "I don't know!"

'''Your referring to the New Testament which is only a portion of the Bible. I'm not an atheist but the books of the Bible were written by & compiled by men. Judaism, Christianity & the Islamic faith all worship the one same God.'''

''Are you sure it's the same god? The god Christians worship has a son. The god Jews worship demands the shedding of the blood of animals to forgive sin and the god worshipped by Muslims does not.''

'''If it's true that the Bible contains scientific facts that were written thousands of years before man discovered them, the implications are staggering. These facts would be evidence that the Bible is the word of God.'''

1 Water existed 3 days before the stars existed that needed to explode to manufacture the oxygen found in H2O.

2 The circumference of a basin 10 cubits in diameter was given as 30 cubits rather than 31.

3. One third of the stars were cast down to the Earth without undue harm.

Isaiah 53 is prophecy about the Messiah being crucified and paying for our sins.

So when verse 10 says, "He shall see his seed" that means Jesus had kids?

Many scholars think it was a local flood.

Many scholars ignore what the Bible clearly teaches:

Genesis 7:19 ...and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

'''I didn’t know it spoke of a worldwide flood. How do you know it wasn’t a local flood?'''

Genesis 7:21 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died....